Where to find very modern 1:3000 ships (when Shapeways is out of business)?

This is a follow-on of my Taiwan-blog of December 3rd. Since a couple of months I am trying to find very modern 1:3000 miniature ships for a future Taiwan scenario. Especially Chinese, but also more modern Russian (Ukraine scenario?). There is not much 'very modern' available at NAVWAR, DAVCO and Shapeway 3d printing platform unfortunately went out of business in Summer 2024... First I looked at scale 1:2400, made by companies like XP Forge (3D printing) and GHQ (metal), both in the USA. I ordered some Chinese & Russian very modern vessels from both, but because in this scale they are almost more than 20% bigger than 1:3000, it didn't look right compared to my 1:3000 fleet. See picture:
You see two 1:3000 ships (top: Chinese carrier type 001 and Chinese destroyer type 052 in the middle) compared to Chinese 1:2400 ships (from top to bottom): Type 071 LPD (supposed to be approx. 70% of the length of a Type 001 carrier), a type 052C destroyer (should be about the same size as the Type 052 destroyer above it) and a Type 072 LST (should be 17% shorter than the type 052 in the middle)...

Then I found 'Historic Board Games' on the internet. They have modern and WW2 3D-printed ships and aircraft, but it was unclear in which scale. In the description of most of their board game models the actual size is mentioned in millimeter/inches. However they don't use a fixed scale for their models: some are bigger than 1:2400; some are smaller than 1:3000. Aircraft are mostly 1:700-ish. So I made this list. 'Green': within 10% difference with 1:3000 scale. Orange: approx 15% difference with 1:3000 and Red: 20% difference or more.     

country

unit (+ length)

length 1:3000 (NAVWAR)

length 1:2400 (XP Forge or GHQ)

length Historic Board Games

UK

(UK) QE2 carrier (284 m.)

9,4 (calculated)

12

6,8


HMS Ocean (203 m.)

6,7 (calculated)


6


LST Mk 2 (WW2)

4,0 (calculated)


4,4


LST Mk 3 (WW2)



4,5


Vulcan bomber

1:700


4,0


Lynx helo

1:700


2,4

China

Type 075 LHD (232 m.)

7,7 (calculated)


5,9


Type 072 LST (120 m.)

4 (calculated)

5,0

-


Type 071 LPD (210 m.)

7 (calculated)

8,5

5,3


Type 055 CG (180 m.)

6 (calculated)


5,6


Type 054 FFG (134 m.)

4,5 (calculated)


3,5


Type 053 FF (112 m.)

3,7 (calculated)


3,7


Type 052D DDG (144 m.)

4,7 (type 052)

6,5

4,8


H-6 Badger (35 m.)

5,5 (1:600)


5,2


SU-27/J-11 (22 m.)

3,1 (1:700)


3,1


Z-9 helo (12 m.)

1,7 (calculated)


1:700

France

Ouragan class LPD

4,8 (calculated


4,8

Germany

Hamburg class

4,5 (calculated)


4,8


Bremen class

4,3 (calculated)


3,6


DO-24 (WW2; 22 m.

3,7 (1:600) 


3,8

Russia

Ivan Rogov LPD (157 m.)

5,4 (NAVWAR)


8,3


Kuznetsov /Type 001

10 (NAVWAR)


6,8


Sovremenny DDG

5,2 (NAVWAR)


4,9


Udaloy DDG

5,5 (NAVWAR)


5,1


CG Kara (173 m.)

5,8 (calculated)


5,8


CG Kresta 2 (160 m)

5,3 (calculated)


5,7


Gepard FFG (102 m.)

3,4 (calculated)


3,8


Ropucha LST (112 m.)

3,8 (NAVWAR)


4,6


SU-24 (22,5 m.)

1:700


3,2


YAK-38 (16,4 m.)

1:700


2,4


Tu-22 Blinder (41 m)

5,8 (calculated)


3,8


Tu-22M Backfire

6 (calculated)


4,5

USA

USS Arleigh Burke DDG

5,3 (NAVWAR)


not available


USS Wasp LHD

8,5 (NAVWAR)


6,6


Ashland landing ship

4,7 (calculated)


4,7


C. Adams DDG

4,8 (calculated)


4,8


LSM (WW2; 62 m.)

2,1 (calculated)


3,6


F-35 (16 m.)

2,3 (1:700)


2,2


V-22 Osprey (17,5 m.)

2.5 (1:700)


2,0


H-6 Badger (35 m.)

5,5 (1:600)


5,2

North Korea

Najin class DDG 

3,3 (calculated)


3,5

Don't forget to look at their 'general miniatures' as well; they have oil rigs, smoke screen and a LNG-tanker (see picture; painted by me).

1 opmerking:

  1. Historical Board Games started recently with a dedicated service, that you can order your ships in an exact scale (choose: 1:1800, 1:2400 or 1:3000). Although t is more expensive and you only get 1 miniature for that price (vice 5 for the 'normal' 3D prints) I see this as progress!

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